Bill O’Reilly’s Marijuana Legalization Poll Completely Backfires

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Yesterday, Fox News pundit Bill O’Reilly and his team posed the following question on O’Reilly’s poll center:

Do you favor the legalization of marijuana?

The poll’s purpose was, in O’Reilly’s pipe dream world, to facilitate an extremely negative response and then to air a segment on The O’Reilly Factor derailing cannabis legalization (like he did Monday night). By polling his own audience, O’Reilly and his team could paint a delusional picture, but one supported by “data.”

And at first, it worked. 81% of the initial voters responded with a resolute “No.”

Then, the internet caught wind of the poll, made it go viral in the cannabis community, and worked its marijuana magic.

First, NORML posted the following message to its constituency on Facebook:

NORML Nation: Bill O’Reilly is hosting a poll on marijuana legalization, but unlike most polls, we are losing! Click to vote and turn the tide. Let’s show Prohibitionist O’Reilly that it is time to end the madness and legalize marijuana. Think we can flip these results?

That post got over 3,000 likes and 1,500 shares. Despite feeling “dirty” by giving O’Reilly’s poll serious web traffic, the NORML community rallied, and hit the poll hard.

UPDATE: We went from 18% for, 81% against (1,483 votes) to 70% for, 30% opposed (~4,000 votes) in about 20 minutes. Good work everyone!

Then, the same message made its to Reddit’s popular marijuana community. Then, this happened:

oreilly poll

Update: The poll is holding steady with legal weed holding a comfortable 90%-10% lead.

This graphic paints a clear picture: the internet’s love of legal weed has become a force that cannot be reckoned with.

It’s unclear whether or not O’Reilly will ever air this ironic poll which pretty much derails his entire anti-pot hypothesis. It is clear that if Bill O’Reilly and Nancy Grace had a baby, the world would be doomed.

About Author

Barry has been writing about marijuana for over two years. Prior to joining Marijuana.com, Barry wrote about sports and music. His work has appeared on TIME, The Huffington Post, Deadspin, and elsewhere on the Internet. In his spare time, he enjoys disco and Kosher Kush.

  • Kitty Cat Randy

    TIGHT B

  • JJErler

    The best part of this was ‘if Bill O’reilly and nancy grace had a baby’ holy shit that would be one fucked up marijuana hating baby.

    • reggie_m

      Nancy ‘Dis’Grace

  • cm123

    Bill’s body language in the photo above speaks volumes about the man, and how he sees others in ‘his’ world.

    • rejectrepublicanlies

      His arrogance and disdain for minorities is written all over his face.

  • justmyopinion

    The goes to further show that we might be sick, stoned, in pain, but we ARE NOT STUPID!

  • zGunner .

    Hopefully things like this not only help the legalization movement, but also the movement to get ignorant hate-mongers off TV. Morons like Bill and Nancy should not be allowed on TV spreading their bullshit to anyone willing to listen.

    • Dave Suchy

      well if FDR wouldnt have hired Anslinger to educate people, they wouldnt think like they do. Racist Democrats caused this problem.

      • Hagbard Celine

        Anslinger’s lies have been debunked for decades so you’ll have to find another way to blame Democrats.

      • Steven Buck

        Hey dave- you really think by making a statement thats the opposite in the nature of what a political group believes in typically,that you right-wingers could get the public to have a false understanding of things?? The population is still continuing to grow and favor our side (the left), so who would you be pulling to your side when the majority is moving in positive direction, away from the right? Do you guys even understand statistics in the masses? what up man?

    • Josh

      Yea!! How dare they put their views that go against zGunner!!!

      • Michelle

        It’s one thing to share your opposing views. It’s a whole other thing to lie and misinform the public, which Fox does on a regular basis.

  • Troy Rudd

    Bill O’reilly says whatever Bill O’reilly thinks best serves Bill O’reilly at that particular time.

  • http://itsmedicinejim.blogspot.com Gryphonn

    Yep, still available in Australia, and still able to be voted on. The results are currently 90% for 10% against

  • http://itsmedicinejim.blogspot.com Gryphonn

    Screenie from 3.50am GMT 31 July ’14

  • jeff

    only thing this points out is that potheads dont actually work for a living and instead rig polls

    • FreedomFromIgnorance

      …and that you’re a fucking douchebag.

    • Xsquader

      It takes 5 seconds to vote. Since when is legitimate voting “rigging” btw?

    • avianeddy

      hows life as an asshole treating you?

    • Robert Vallentyne

      Do you think O’reily wasn’t rigging his own poll? And where is your data that pot heads don’t work coming from? And O’reily deserved to have his poll rigged against him for trying such an idiotic way to show his point in the first place.

    • rejectrepublicanlies

      Really funny, Jeff. Potheads are all around you, Jeff, and they work. It’s not my cup of tea, pun intended, but I know many people that love it. They have to make some serious jack to afford the new strains, so I’m pretty sure they’re working, Jeff.

  • Alia Corbeil

    There are TWO Cannabis-related questions…PLEASE vote for BOTH of them!!

  • Steve Belzer

    Oh, he’ll probably air it and write it off as having been hijacked by stoned hackers or something.

  • Chad

    If they had a baby, I would name it Sunny Muffins.

  • Chad Millard

    All I can say is that you must have been on something really good when you wrote this article. Seriously? The only thing that was proved by the poll (which O’Reilly has always welcomed opposing views on his polls) is that Reddit and NORML users are on the internet all the time.

    • MikeParent

      It proved that O’Reilly viewers are only a small segment. His point was to show the people aren’t for legalization and he failed.

  • John Redman

    PKs (preacher kid) may be “bad”, but slut ??? You are a language whore, Stan. Shame on you.

  • MikeParent

    He’s in a pickle. He has to admit most want it legalized or say his polls are worthless. Or he’ll ignore the poll and hope it will go away. Btw Bill, that’s not going to happen.

  • MikeParent

    That’s what Bill was counting on, only the results were not what he expected. He can’t even get the vote to reflect what he wanted it to, on his own site!

  • MikeParent

    IOWs his polls are directed to his viewing audience and are worthless for informational value.

  • avianeddy

    TAKE IT DOWN! TAKE IT DOWN! we’ll do a new poll and WE’LL DO IT LIVE

  • diditweetthat

    Still think stoners are lazy Bill?

    Sorry we weren’t sitting on our asses watching your senseless drivel… like your viewers (retired and/or lazy daytime TV watchers)

    We were off accomplishing great things, but had to stop by to let you know that you are wrong about Marijuana Legalization. It is time!!!

    You’re welcome,

    The Not So Lazy Stoners

  • Neece Cummings

    Bill O doesn’t deserve to dine with our soldiers. Who allowed that?

  • Buddy Plant

    Bill O’Reilly won’t debate anybody real in the Marijuana legalization movement because he will lose face.. and the public will see him as the phony he is. Debate someone who doen’t share your “Fox news” bias attitude…more grandstanding for the ratings of a subpar newsman. Look me up on Facebook O’Reilly… Lets debate if you have the………. nerve…..

  • Kappa

    This makes me happy

  • Kuerno

    Uh… did his survey crash or was it pulled…? Didn’t work for FF or Chrome.

    • mjadmin

      pulled!!

  • Mickey

    I am in favor of legalizing ALL drugs for use by consenting adults, provided it’s illegal to spend any public money treating the effects.

    Freedom to choose. Freedom FROM the choices of others. That is what freedom is.

    • Robert Vallentyne

      If you legalize drugs, it would save Billions of dollars on prison costs, police costs, court costs and generate tax revenue. There would be PLENTY of money to treat people with addition problems. I have no problem with doing that.

      • rejectrepublicanlies

        All we need do is look at Colorado.

    • peeVee

      “Freedom FROM the choices of others.”

      that is NOT how ‘Freedom’ works.

      oh my goodness.

    • Rob

      Freedom from the choices of others? Until you need help right? What if you got hit by a bus today? Because you chose to walk in front of it, you think the public health system should help you? I do, know why, it’s called humanitarian.

      I do agree with your comment about the topic, (para) “all drugs should be legal to consenting adults”. But there’s no money in freedom, they can’t justify the number of military, police and prisons they build with your stolen tax dollars to protect themselves from the people.

      America, if you think you’re not in a police state, try speeding. Police is the government army to protect them from the citizens.

    • Chris Malone

      While legalizing weed is a great idea… legalizing ALL drugs isn’t. I see no inherent benefit from legalizing Meth, or PCP, or Cocaine. Hell, once we legalize weed we should move to get Tobacco made illegal since it has no intrinsic benefit that comes with use and kills more people then most street drugs combined

  • Mickey

    Why the assumption that the poll “backfired”? The man’s opinion on the subject isn’t required to follow public opinion. It’s called “thinking for yourself.”

    • Finnegan A Lemerian

      “The poll’s purpose was, in O’Reilly’s pipe dream world, to facilitate an extremely negative response and then to air a segment on The O’Reilly Factor derailing cannabis legalization (like he did Monday night).”

      Reading comprehension can be fun and profitable.

  • Robert Vallentyne

    Calling for a vote from your conservative viewers is not random sampling. That is why it was initially so biased in the opposite direction. Neither his first tactic or the resulting backlash is mathematically significant.

  • Robert Vallentyne

    As much as I would like to agree with you,it does not. It shows 90%/10% of certain groups of people. Not the country as a whole. Look at the election results. That means more.

  • Robert Vallentyne

    Substituting sware words for logical statements just makes you look stupid

  • Justsomeguy151

    Please don’t be a hypocritical Libtard. BOTH criminal cartels have sold out We the People. There are plenty of Libtards that favor prohibition of some kind against law abiding civilians.

  • dk

    Reverse abortion. Baby lives, parents don’t ! Baby never learns to hate ! Everybody wins !

    • Brandi Jasmine

      Retroactive abortion would be a better solution.

      • Liam Godden

        That’s called “Post Natal Abortion”, as perpetrated by Serial Killers and over zealous Police Officers in the USA for many years….

  • The Micks Fix

    He started a new poll…go hit it up!!!

  • rejectrepublicanlies

    Poll, although I have been known to respond to ladies on the pole. LOL.

  • rejectrepublicanlies

    Or, as I call them, “Fox News” viewers and Republicans.

  • http://teaparty.org ifightchristiansandmuslims

    HERE MY POLL
    HOW MANY RACIAL ABORTIONS DO YOU THINK SARAH PALIN HAS HAD ?
    0
    1-3
    4-6
    7-11
    12-19
    20-28
    MY GUESS IS 7-11 RACIAL ABORTIONS

  • gtrpunk

    I bet Bill O’Reilly is just whiny because nobody ever asked him to try marijuana..

  • Dave Suchy

    so if the conservatives are the ones against it, and the dems are for it, why didnt they legalize it in 09? Many conservatives are against prohibition, but like anybody else, talk shit about em, see if they’ll give a shit. I know Obama doesnt, I know Clinton didnt,

    • Randy

      Mostly because the republican/democrat “parties” is a big scam. Most politicians on both sides take the money from private prisons, alcohol, big pharma, etc to keep marijuana illegal. I haven’t smoked it for over 20 years, so it’s not like I have a vested interest in it being legal other than knowing it’s the right thing to do.

    • Ken Scaletta

      The Dems are not for it.

  • Ultra_Kraken

    I’m all for marijuana legalization, but, seriously, I don’t think pharmaceutical companies are standing in the way. If marijuana was really a miracle cure and if it were legal, I guarantee you various pharmaceutical companies would just develop and market their own strains of “super weed” to sell.

    • Jen Carl

      Perhaps, except for the fact that weed is a plant you can grow in the ground, and if they were to make such a drug legal, folks would be able to grown and sell their own, at the very least there would be A LOT more completion for manufactures of the “best” product. It could lead to people actually treating -and worse- potentially curing illnesses that used to kill them slowly over the course of just enough years to drain them of money as they continue with poisonous Chemo treatments. I’ve seen too much of American greed to think this isn’t possible or even likely. Just imagine a huge pile of money, now imagine people accustomed to getting these huge piles of money having a choice between less money for themselves and people living longer/better lives at lower cost to the individual. When it was a choice between families losing their homes and jobs and bankers getting more money, bankers chose money. More health means less money for the pharmaceutical industry, which means they’ll do anything to keep less profitable solutions off the table, no matter their benefit to the public.

      • Jeremy Curd

        I agree with some of what you say, but as far as I know HIV and Ebola pretty much thumb their noses at Chemo and almost everything else so the drug companies won’t be going out of business any time soon.

      • WILLIAMDWYER

        Just like growing your own tobacco for the purpose of selling it. The Govn’t will need to get their 2 cents in. You’d prob be allowed to grow it. You would prob be allowed to sell the whole leaves as long as the mid rib is not removed. But in order to make, roll, and sell your own “Brand”, you would likely need to buy a license for that, so they can tax it. Some states also have limitations on how much tobacco you can grow, which I believe is 2/10ths of an acre…so I think it would be identical with weed.

  • Gabriele Jerousek

    or sarah palin

  • steve mountain man allakum

    It’s the same as alcohol. The only difference is that I’ve never witnessed a pothead fly into a Mary Jane fueled rage and fight or beat somebody. I have seen the opposite from drinkers. I’ve never done pot myself but have many friends who have. My take is that pot makes people probably a little lazier and dumber (long term) than drinkers, but probably more passive at the same time, and less of a danger to others. I don’t care personally.

  • Guest

    He started up another poll, asking the same question but in a different format.

  • Bob Loblaw

    He started another poll, asking the same question but different format! Vote!!!

  • jamesdorr

    Train your kids to be potheads?? In the state I live in, they sell liquor on the highways…

    Do you form intelligent opinions or are you always this stupid?

  • JustThinkingLogically

    Bil O’reilly’s personal opinion is just that. Instead of hating on the guy, try to understand his concerns and provide a thoughtful rebuttal. Disagreement is fine and should be used to dialog where people don’t agree, personal slander is not.

    • Rorshach Sridhar

      But what’s there to be concerned with?

    • Chico Gonzalez

      First, learn the difference between libel and slander. Then, learn about Bill. He is a liar and a charlatan.

  • Jennifer Burton

    I just tried (I wanted to vote) on Chrome and IE but the page is blank. Hmm…

    • Clayton Moore

      Yeah, I just tried the link this morning, it is now blank on my computer too. I guess if the results don’t go in your favor, you just make the link quit working.

  • Black Lotus

    All of these polls are biased (especially O’reilly’s). What is needed is a non-biased poll. I am all for legalization, but self-serving polls mean nothing. Of course pot smokers are going to poll in favor. ;P

  • h4x354x0r

    One poll, completely overwhelmed by “stoners” to the point it gets shut down, then another one opened, which promptly gets overwhelmed by more “stoners”.

    So much for the theory that pot smokers are lazy. ALL the lies and propaganda are being stripped away. Colorado? 8 months legal, thriving economy, $Millions in revenue, decreases in crime and traffic fatalities. No more money or livelihoods wasted on prohibition. In other words, sanity.

    The drug war kills people. The drug itself does not. Cannabis is completely non-toxic; nobody has *ever* died of an overdose. This, alone, is reason enough to end prohibition.

  • Justin Graziano

    Amazing how Republicans like Bill O’Reilly support allowing insurance companies to deny healthcare to sick dying people “in the name of freedom”, but at the same time want it to be a crime to smoke a harmless plant in your own home.

  • http://www.localnlive.co.uk/ heenan73

    Sweet, but all it really shows is that online polls are a waste of everyone’s time and space. It changes nothing.

    • Pádráig O’Gáirmléadháigh

      It may not in itself change anything but it does go a way toward sane legislation, where politicians make laws based on what people want not large multinational corporations, and especially the Alcohol lobby which is worth billions in revenue and taxes, but which at the same time costs the country, any country, huge amounts of money in health problems, broken families and broken lives. When was the last time you heard that charge levelled at Marijuana, a crop that has untold benefits for the entire planet and its inhabitants….

  • Brad Byers

    Both polls have a biased base opposite of each other with little variables = useless.

  • cptfunkadunk

    That last sentence made me throw up a little.

  • Marques McMillian

    pointless poll. pointless article. You gotta come stronger than this when you want to take down the king of bullshit mountain.

  • Jeremy Carvalho

    I’m smarter than god.

  • Oswald_Chesterfield_Cobblepot

    Yeah, doesn’t work for me either. I guess that’s one way to manipulate a poll.

    • Steven Buck

      We (Democratic progressive majority participants) don’t need to manipulate any poll, nor do we even have to convince any boby of anything,(being the majority) We’re on the side of an issue that we’re proud to believe in, and reject those groups and ppl that are shameful. It’s that easy, just do the right thing, and ignore those that are boneheads. Why are you guys on the right so confused about reality ??

      • Lucy35

        Your statement is totally a boneheaded one. The democratic progressives are not the majority and lots of liberals and their websites manipulate polls…. the fact that you don’t recognize this is in itself scary. It just so happens that the majority of both liberals and conservatives despite what GOP reps may say like Bill O’Reilly are for legalizing marijuana. It is a topic most Americans agree on despite what party you stand for.

      • Oswald_Chesterfield_Cobblepot

        Are you high right now? And I’m not talking about marijuana, I’m talking about something that causes you to literally hallucinate, say stupid things, and make even dumber assumptions. I’m a pot smoker. I have smoked for 20 years. I live in Colorado. I voted yes on Amendment 64. I have supported the legalization of marijuana since I even knew what it was. Trying to state that I’m some right winger, is a reach. Democrats are as big a part of the problem as some Republicans. Liberals consistently fight against the legalization of controlled substances, as much as Republicans do. You aren’t really helping yourself by associating yourself with the Democratic progressive group.

        • A_Teacher

          Your evidence for this surprising claim, “Liberals consistently fight against the legalization of controlled substances, as much as Republicans do.” is what precisely?

  • Robert Scalzi

    I now have coffee all over my keyboard – thanks for nothing – a B.O. + Nancy love child – bwa hahahahahaha

  • Robert Scalzi

    look at Colorado – none of the horror stories are even close to coming to fruition.

  • cratewasher

    There are two kinds of people opposed to the de-criminalization of marijuana.
    The Cowards and the Corrupt.

  • James Brahier

    Awwww….Bill took it down….I AM SO SHOCKED….not lol

  • Steven Buck

    The results of the poll isn’t based on that photo. This subject of marijuana being dealt with by the police and the courts in an unworkable policy is being changed, understand? However, consequences in the other direction may be negative health wise. It shouldn’t have been included in the drug war, now it’s too bad (speaking culturally).

  • blair houghton

    Unbalanced poll choices as well. There’s a “yes” and a “maybe” but not a “no”. Classic Fox News. Glad it bit them on the ass anyway.

  • Jesus sucked gay penis

    Derp!

  • lkharter

    “It is clear that if Bill O’Reilly and Nancy Grace had a baby, the world would be doomed.” But, they already have: they named it Hannity.

  • Steve Brickman

    BO will probably shift ground and moan about how his poll was hijacked, and how this proved the need for strict voter ID laws – it’s those damn liberals trying to stack the deck.

  • Tim Leonard

    BAHAHAHAHA. If only everything in life was as easy to rig as an internet poll

  • Tim Leonard

    I’d say the poll results HAVE proven it, Sparky.

  • Tim Leonard

    Of course you do. You’re stoned. Legally. :)

  • Orionsangel

    Alcohol kills thousands of people every year and it’s celebrated. It makes no sense.

  • John_St_John

    Recent poll update at 2:38 MDT

    Yes72%
    No28%
    65867 total votes

  • Tim Hoeker

    He will form a conspiracy theory and claim to be a victim of unfairness.

  • rojroj

    They already did have a baby-Ann Coulter.

    • dsmidiman

      Thanks! You made my day!

  • Dix Lee

    Bill O’Reilly would never, ever, solicit a poll making him look bad or deviate from his Catholic, conservative agenda.

  • Barry Hyman

    the caption on the above picture should read…what? they dont issue you a luffa when you enlist?

  • John

    You are not supposed to go into the “Fox Bubble” that is where there whole worldview is “given” to them. Now let them get back to there 2 years of Benghazi debunked “stand down” orders. Fox should order a new tent for their party. Just smaller than the year before.

  • BigMike

    A poll doesn’t work if one side can hijack it and pass it around like the article flat out admits to. I’m not sure why this is played off as a win of some sort. The average person does not want it legal, whether their reasons are right or wrong. The fact that you can hijack a poll, share it to a select tightly woven community that you know will jump all over it (even voting multiple times most likely) only means that the results are now completely useless, not that they represent the true feelings.

    • Brian

      “The average person does not want it legal,”

      And I suppose you have actual peer-reviewed data to support that assertion?

      • BigMike

        I’m not required to have it. Do you have one?

        • Brian

          I didn’t make any assertions as you did.

          So again, you asserted that “The average person does not want it legal,”

          So do you have actual peer-reviewed data to support that assertion or are you just pulling that out of thin air because you want it to be true? Or did yer gut tell ya it must be true?

  • WILLIAMDWYER

    If it ever is discussed again, Bill will simply say the integrity of the results were tampered with. He will unveil a new poll, and get it under the radar by having only staff vote. God forbid ANY Fox News program ever actually represent both sides of an argument.

  • WILLIAMDWYER

    Give it time. I am sure both have this tucked away, and are waiting for Bill to open his mouth first.

  • Ian Maberry
  • Christine

    I don’t use pot, but I surely do wish it were legalized so we could move on to more important things. What a waste of time and money the whole thing is!

  • PGrajnert

    The worst part is that I just spent 45 seconds reading about the Fixed News boob. What a waste of my precious life.

  • ErnieS

    Bill’s an idiot. Who watches this guy? I guess it’s just Old, Fat, Pink guys.

  • Robin J Newman

    Or it just proves people who smoke pot have way more time on their hands than people who dont

    • Goodluck Jonathan

      Because the time cost of voting on a bill orilley poll is way different than coming onto a website for marijuana law reform to troll the comments…. right? At least they have the excuse that they’re tired of being threatened with jail.

  • Rick Nolte

    Nancy and Bills baby? That would be Chuckie

  • Al Haines

    Bill O’reilly has never been interested in facts, when he wants to make a point he has so often made up his own set of facts… HOORAY for you guys.. the numbers do say a lot but is government listening?

    :>

  • Dan107

    As Bill is thinking: “Is my three minutes up, how long do I need to sit next to this Negro?”

  • john adickes

    No worries, that little clone hybred probably wouldn’t bud anyway. Right on!! ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gadzgamz Ryan Gadz

    If anything, this just portraits the idea you should never trust internet polls lol

  • CR

    barrel of cocks, that sounds more like what he’s accustom to . considering how closed minded. an with his sold out views he’s jst a propaganda tool for big biss. an capitol hill . he is a sold out s%%u202A#%u200Et%u202C stain . i have only one ? for him an his high horse . if someone is doing some thing you don’t like, why do you even care . as long as they do not bother you , or your life . what gives you the right to try to dictate and force your views on others I’m sure no one tells you how much liquor you can have or if any at all. I’m glad it all exploded in your face like it did . servers u right Bill suxO’lotacock. jst because u have money an are on tv does not mean you can try an dictate what is good for our country. we the people decide. an jst to let you know all the old school ideas are being tossed out or lost , @ least the unjustifiable , ridicules and or petty crap . one is as our generation is starting to get into office , an as the older gen. loose there

    seats . give it ten years it will be fully legal . no one is telling you how much liquor to drink or if you can have any at all . also jst because the people voted not jst you viewers does not mean the poll was tainted . thats the true definition of discriminations . so that like saying only black peoples or white peoples . so its only your viewers that counted hmmmmm pretty discriminative an all most racist in its self %u2026.. almost you asked the people to vote , an u got it sorry it demasculated on your own show how embarrassing . Poor lil Bill it must be so hard for you bo ho ho%u2026

  • Charles

    It’s an informal poll where the results are now known to be skewered. This is the downside to these, only people with the hope of influencing results and policy take them and thus not really reveal what a random sample of Americans really feel. Not data or science at all. Purely political agenda. (Though I take the libertarian stance, what you do on your own, as long as it doesn’t negatively others, is your own business.)

  • Allan Frazier

    Which makes me wonder if Bill O’reilly has ever tried marijuana or is this just a ratings grabber? Seems to me that the circles he revolves in would have easy access to the stuff and yet he has never tried? Does he NOT drink alcohol as well? Both intoxicants. Someone slip this man a brownie…SMH.

  • A_Teacher

    Which “far left”? Please be specific.

  • realist1967

    To start with, I am a stoner so, GO LEGALIZATION! That being said, I just went to O’Reilly’s website and you can only vote if you are a paid member. To me, this questions the validity of this “news piece”. I can’t imagine anyone buying a $50 membership, just to vote. Unless there is another way to access this poll, my opinion is this is propaganda rather than factual. It is also (just my?) opinion, O’Reilly is a douche bag of the highest order!

  • Legalize freedom

    anything safer than alcohol has to be legalized otherwise its prohibition is a defacto crime.

  • ImwithStupid

    After I came back from Iraq (Desert shield/storm) I hit the booze hard, for years, almost killed me. MJ would have been a much safer alternative for sure. Guys I was with didn’t complain about ptsd, didn’t even know what is was back then. I was one of the lucky ones, a lot of my friends had it much worse than me.

  • Robert Vallentyne

    Why do people keep talking about veterans, firemen and policeman as special people. They do their job and risk getting killed just like everybody else. According to the bureau of labor statistics, none of those jobs even make it into the top 10 most dangerous jobs. We all work to serve our country. And veterans, stop crying about you health benefits not being good enough, at least you have something. A taxi cab driver has a better chance of being killed on the job than any you, but gets no health benefits, no survivor benefits and makes less money than any of you.

    If you are going to let people out of prison for drug offenses (And I believe we should) Why only Veterans? What the hell is wrong with everybody else?

  • rejectrepublicanlies

    And we should all honor your service and make sure you, and all Vet’s, get everything you earned. We owe it to you.

  • ImwithStupid

    Not saying anyone needs special treatment. None of that talk is happening here, it is a discussion on MJ, and PTSD and how it completely ruins and ends people’s lives and how MJ is a much better alternative to booze. I don’t ask for or want any special treatment, and this is not a “who has it worse” competition. I’m sure quite a few Taxi Drivers get PTSD as well, but I really doubt they make less than a new private in the military. I know when I was in, a new private made about the same wage as McDonald’s starts you out at. The reason the military was brought up is that a bill was just shot down that would have let Vets talk to the vet docs in States where Med MJ was legal. Wasserman-Schultz voted no on it, big Pharma strikes again.

  • lorimakesquilts

    Because that is what they were promised. We held them to their end and would have imprisoned them if they didn’t. We are obliged to uphold our end.

    Because they make shit pay and their boss is probably a completely clueless 2Lt who’s maybe three years older. Because no veteran comes back from a war unscathed, his family doesn’t either. And we promised to take care of them when they got back.

    Are you a vet?