2012...what are your feelings on the subject? - Page 33

Thomas420 · 10-25-2009, 03:36 AM

From what I heard.. he didn't directly said the world is going to end. He just said something significant will happen. And since it's the same time as the Mayan calender ends people are freaking out.

I don't think anyone as the ability to foresee the future.

freakfunkle · 11-04-2009, 02:23 PM

If he was Right and the world was actually gonna end somewhat then the only logical explaination would be glaciation. This is when the earths plates move in such a way that it causes an ice age. This would be earths 5th one and i think its about a few million years too early man. but who knows?
u nevr know, the world could end at any time hahaha.

i for one think its will be a normal year

Peace

**Hashishi** · 11-04-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freakfunkle

If he was Right and the world was actually gonna end somewhat then the only logical explaination would be glaciation. This is when the earths plates move in such a way that it causes an ice age. This would be earths 5th one and i think its about a few million years too early man. but who knows?
u nevr know, the world could end at any time hahaha.

i for one think its will be a normal year

Peace

Plate tectonics involves the movement of the world's plates.

Glaciation involves the movement of the world's glaciers.

TrackStoner · 11-06-2009, 03:40 PM

Ive heard a few arguments about this topic and the best argument I heard against it is that it is mis translated. So many people are freaking out about how accurate his predictions were in the past... but how many people actually read his original predictions? (in his native language) Most people base their beliefs in this subject off of some1s translation from his language to english, what if he really didnt make those predictions at all? what if some1 is just fucking with us and just reworded his predictions to make sense?

certainly something to think about..

haskins69 · 11-06-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackStoner

Ive heard a few arguments about this topic and the best argument I heard against it is that it is mis translated. So many people are freaking out about how accurate his predictions were in the past... but how many people actually read his original predictions? (in his native language) Most people base their beliefs in this subject off of some1s translation from his language to english, what if he really didnt make those predictions at all? what if some1 is just fucking with us and just reworded his predictions to make sense?

certainly something to think about..

hummmm.............isn't this same argurement useable agianst/for the bible?

after all who has
1. read "ALL" the original text in their original languege
2. didn't the church not allow certain books in the final text
3. and hasn't it went though about 10 translations each of which could of been botched or rigged for a certain outcome

just some thoughts I've had

FunkySkunky · 11-06-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by haskins69

hummmm.............isn't this same argurement useable agianst/for the bible?

after all who has
1. read "ALL" the original text in their original languege
2. didn't the church not allow certain books in the final text
3. and hasn't it went though about 10 translations each of which could of been botched or rigged for a certain outcome

just some thoughts I've had

The same goes for the mayans and just about every other source of information about the 2012 date. The language itself is very important in the meaning and interpretation of the texts. It is important to remember that. Also good to see someone turning the critical eye towards the Bible. Well done.

intangible child · 11-06-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkySkunky

The same goes for the mayans and just about every other source of information about the 2012 date. The language itself is very important in the meaning and interpretation of the texts. It is important to remember that. Also good to see someone turning the critical eye towards the Bible. Well done.

Mayan history

Until the arrival of the Spaniards conquistadors in 1526, the Maya civilization was a thriving nation. However, Mayan civilization changed forever after the arrival of the Franciscan monks. The religious aspect of the conquest of Mexico is important in the profound impact the Catholic religion had on the indigenous people. One man in particular had a devastating effect on Mayan religious practices. In 1562, Friar Diego de Landa ordered the destruction of thousands of Mayan religious sculptures and manuscripts, along with the torture and murder of suspected Mayan non-Christians. One would think that because of the Spanish Conquest, the end of Mayan religion was imminent. However, despite the sufferings of the Mayan people, religious practices persisted, especially in rural villages. Religion was interwoven in culture, and personal history. In this way, the Mayans and their Spanish conquerors struggled for control of Mayan souls. Although Spanish priests converted the Maya to Roman Catholicism, there was a great deal of overlap between Maya and Christian belief systems. The systems were similar in many respects, and this union of customs and beliefs facilitated the merging of religions. The Mayans were converted to Roman Catholic

There are records of burning people alive, hanging them from trees, mutilation and drownings.

The acceptance of the new faith is not something that abruptly takes place at conversion, but a lengthy, gradual process that takes generations, whereupon the old faith gradually fades away. He felt that the books were inspired by the devil. Landa and others believed that the Spanish were so small in number that they had to use these tactics to scare the local population in order to achieve conquest.

Although Spanish priests converted the Maya to Roman Catholicism, there was a great deal of overlap between Maya and Christian belief systems. This destruction of books is the second thing for which de Landa is known. Writing is only one of many lost art forms, including feather work and painting

Religion and the Mayan people were interwoven through time, oral, and personal history. In July of 1562, de Landa burned five thousand idols and 27 hieroglyphic rolls at Mani in the Yucatan. This unique description of Mayan life is the only example of its kind. The requirement that we sympathize with all claims of suffering and happiness would rest on the absurd assumption that all private moralities are ultimately commensurable: that they can all be fitted together in a unified view of the good life. Bishop Diego de Landa also tortured and killed many Mayans. I do not believe they can; and so I propose that to care for others requires only an honest attempt at solidarity, that is, an effort to imagine and then actually believe that what others claim is good and bad, really is, or is not, at least for them. In 1562, the Mayan culture was dealt a severe blow when Friar Diego de Landa ordered the destruction of thousands of Mayan religious sculptures and 27 different hieroglyphic manuscripts, along with the torture and murder of suspected Mayan non-Christians. " (Friar Diego de Landa, 1566)

Ironically, one of the most important accounts of Mayan life was written by one of the biggest offenders, Friar Diego de Landa.

FunkySkunky · 11-07-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by intangible child

Mayan history

Until the arrival of the Spaniards conquistadors in 1526, the Maya civilization was a thriving nation. However, Mayan civilization changed forever after the arrival of the Franciscan monks. The religious aspect of the conquest of Mexico is important in the profound impact the Catholic religion had on the indigenous people. One man in particular had a devastating effect on Mayan religious practices. In 1562, Friar Diego de Landa ordered the destruction of thousands of Mayan religious sculptures and manuscripts, along with the torture and murder of suspected Mayan non-Christians. One would think that because of the Spanish Conquest, the end of Mayan religion was imminent. However, despite the sufferings of the Mayan people, religious practices persisted, especially in rural villages. Religion was interwoven in culture, and personal history. In this way, the Mayans and their Spanish conquerors struggled for control of Mayan souls. Although Spanish priests converted the Maya to Roman Catholicism, there was a great deal of overlap between Maya and Christian belief systems. The systems were similar in many respects, and this union of customs and beliefs facilitated the merging of religions. The Mayans were converted to Roman Catholic

There are records of burning people alive, hanging them from trees, mutilation and drownings.

The acceptance of the new faith is not something that abruptly takes place at conversion, but a lengthy, gradual process that takes generations, whereupon the old faith gradually fades away. He felt that the books were inspired by the devil. Landa and others believed that the Spanish were so small in number that they had to use these tactics to scare the local population in order to achieve conquest.

Although Spanish priests converted the Maya to Roman Catholicism, there was a great deal of overlap between Maya and Christian belief systems. This destruction of books is the second thing for which de Landa is known. Writing is only one of many lost art forms, including feather work and painting

Religion and the Mayan people were interwoven through time, oral, and personal history. In July of 1562, de Landa burned five thousand idols and 27 hieroglyphic rolls at Mani in the Yucatan. This unique description of Mayan life is the only example of its kind. The requirement that we sympathize with all claims of suffering and happiness would rest on the absurd assumption that all private moralities are ultimately commensurable: that they can all be fitted together in a unified view of the good life. Bishop Diego de Landa also tortured and killed many Mayans. I do not believe they can; and so I propose that to care for others requires only an honest attempt at solidarity, that is, an effort to imagine and then actually believe that what others claim is good and bad, really is, or is not, at least for them. In 1562, the Mayan culture was dealt a severe blow when Friar Diego de Landa ordered the destruction of thousands of Mayan religious sculptures and 27 different hieroglyphic manuscripts, along with the torture and murder of suspected Mayan non-Christians. " (Friar Diego de Landa, 1566)

Ironically, one of the most important accounts of Mayan life was written by one of the biggest offenders, Friar Diego de Landa.

Very nice. Indeed much information may have been outright destroyed as well. Not to mention the differing viewpoints from westerners and the like. But this Friar Diego de Landa seems to be an interesting man to say the least. Of course we may never know the whole story, or the true story for that matter.

TokeTillYouDrop · 11-08-2009, 02:54 AM

Theres nothing to suggest the world ending. We would have known by now that the world is in decline. Some ancient prophecy isnt going to sway my life.

upinacloud · 11-08-2009, 03:32 AM

ok so the mayan's, nostradamus, and whether it be truth or not, some astronomers think that the world could possibly end? And there is a lot occuring in 12. I mean charles manson, obama... To me obama is the only thing that makes this even remotely close to something i should be concerned about. I am no expert on any of this, but i have seen some facts,and interesting theories about 2012. i've heard that obama is the supposed son of satan, or something that is related to biblical terms, like god and demons and all that, and that he will bring about the end of the world. But im sure there isn't anything to worry about, i mean even if we all die, oh well not a big deal in the big picture. well kinda, but if it's gonna happen being all sad about it isn't going to help. Best thing to do is smoke as much weed as possible until 2012, good luck

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Thomas420 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 27 Grams: 276.70 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	From what I heard.. he didn't directly said the world is going to end. He just said something significant will happen. And since it's the same time as the Mayan calender ends people are freaking out. I don't think anyone as the ability to foresee the future. __________________ "We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers." -Carl Sagan Visit My YouTube! youtube.com/bushpilot223

11-08-2009, 02:54 AM	#329
TokeTillYouDrop Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 557 Grams: 3,870.00 Thanks: 157 Thanked 96 Times in 73 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Theres nothing to suggest the world ending. We would have known by now that the world is in decline. Some ancient prophecy isnt going to sway my life. __________________ Prohibition only drives drunkenness behind doors and into dark places and does not cure it *Mark Twain*

11-08-2009, 03:32 AM	#330
upinacloud New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 107 Grams: 1,323.05 Thanks: 47 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	ok so the mayan's, nostradamus, and whether it be truth or not, some astronomers think that the world could possibly end? And there is a lot occuring in 12. I mean charles manson, obama... To me obama is the only thing that makes this even remotely close to something i should be concerned about. I am no expert on any of this, but i have seen some facts,and interesting theories about 2012. i've heard that obama is the supposed son of satan, or something that is related to biblical terms, like god and demons and all that, and that he will bring about the end of the world. But im sure there isn't anything to worry about, i mean even if we all die, oh well not a big deal in the big picture. well kinda, but if it's gonna happen being all sad about it isn't going to help. Best thing to do is smoke as much weed as possible until 2012, good luck __________________ I have become what i was ment to become. What is that? Me.

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